tomas
2014-02-19 22:39:14 UTC
Hi Imma,
thank you for examples. Yes, i can agree, but i think there can be
situations where you don't know which is the local and wich the national
name. Have a look at Gij?n/Xix?n.. which is the spanish name?
But for me it's not a problem.
I wrote in italian because my english is not quiet good.
Thanks for ?/ss :)
Regarding Salorno: i think the Staatsstra?e is not correct, it should be
Nationalstra?e, don't you?
Tomas
Il 19/02/2014 16:11, talk-it-southtyrol-request at openstreetmap.org ha
thank you for examples. Yes, i can agree, but i think there can be
situations where you don't know which is the local and wich the national
name. Have a look at Gij?n/Xix?n.. which is the spanish name?
But for me it's not a problem.
I wrote in italian because my english is not quiet good.
Thanks for ?/ss :)
Regarding Salorno: i think the Staatsstra?e is not correct, it should be
Nationalstra?e, don't you?
Tomas
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Ciao,
noto che negli indirizzi viene proposto Staatsstrasse, ma la strada
statale a Salorno si chiama Via Nazionale, Nationalstrasse
Se posso vorrei dire anche la mia sull'ordine delle lingue, visto che ?
stato deciso di impostarlo in base alla maggiore popolazione.
Non so se questo sia utile per chi magari guarda la cartina dell'Alto Adige.
Per farmene un'idea mi immagino di guardare una regione della Spagna, la
Catalonia p.es. o altra zona, chess?, Valencia.
Ecco, se posso partire dal presupposto che l'ordine delle lingue ?
sempre uguale, sapr? con certezza quale ? il nome spagnolo o catalano.
Se invece venisse indicato in base ad un rilevamento etnico e l'ordine
delle lingue non fosse sempre uguale? Come faccio poi a sapere quale ?
il nome spagnolo?
Certo, in taluni casi si capisce comunque, ma la met? dei nomi pu?
essere dubbia per uno straniero.
Trovate la mia ?berlegung fondata?
ciao
Tomas
p.s.
non mi ricordo pi? se dobbiamo scrivere Strasse o Stra?e ?
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hi tomas,
if i'm not wrong we agreed to write in english so everyone can unterstand. the other option would be everyone writing in his first/mother tongue.
in catalonia place names are catalan only so no solution like yours can be found... and i think a map (even more if it is crowdsourced) can show cultural diversity without having to be "uniform" in a national(istic) sense. so i think the solution we already found is the best one for everyone, don't you?
"stra?e" in german (except for switzerland which has its own official rules) is *always* written with "?"...
greets, imma
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Ciao,
noto che negli indirizzi viene proposto Staatsstrasse, ma la strada
statale a Salorno si chiama Via Nazionale, Nationalstrasse
Se posso vorrei dire anche la mia sull'ordine delle lingue, visto che ?
stato deciso di impostarlo in base alla maggiore popolazione.
Non so se questo sia utile per chi magari guarda la cartina dell'Alto Adige.
Per farmene un'idea mi immagino di guardare una regione della Spagna, la
Catalonia p.es. o altra zona, chess?, Valencia.
Ecco, se posso partire dal presupposto che l'ordine delle lingue ?
sempre uguale, sapr? con certezza quale ? il nome spagnolo o catalano.
Se invece venisse indicato in base ad un rilevamento etnico e l'ordine
delle lingue non fosse sempre uguale? Come faccio poi a sapere quale ?
il nome spagnolo?
Certo, in taluni casi si capisce comunque, ma la met? dei nomi pu?
essere dubbia per uno straniero.
Trovate la mia ?berlegung fondata?
ciao
Tomas
p.s.
non mi ricordo pi? se dobbiamo scrivere Strasse o Stra?e ?
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Hi!
Finally, tomorrow the import of the house numbers will be done.
Here you can find the final information about the import.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/AltoAdige_-_S%C3%BCdtirol/OpenGisData_HouseNumber_Import2#IMPORT
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I say this because I just took a very quick look at one of the
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I think that any such issue has to be fixed _before_ we actually import
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Hi!
Finally, tomorrow the import of the house numbers will be done.
Here you can find the final information about the import.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/AltoAdige_-_S%C3%BCdtirol/OpenGisData_HouseNumber_Import2#IMPORT
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Finally, tomorrow the import of the house numbers will be done.
Please postpone this a little bit! Instead you should first publish theto-be-imported data in .osm format for the community to look over and spot
eventual mistakes.
I say this because I just took a very quick look at one of the
*_update.osm files and immediately found an issue with those
place-instead-of-street based addresses. :(
I think that any such issue has to be fixed _before_ we actually import
the data.
Martin
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hi tomas,
if i'm not wrong we agreed to write in english so everyone can unterstand. the other option would be everyone writing in his first/mother tongue.
in catalonia place names are catalan only so no solution like yours can be found... and i think a map (even more if it is crowdsourced) can show cultural diversity without having to be "uniform" in a national(istic) sense. so i think the solution we already found is the best one for everyone, don't you?
"stra?e" in german (except for switzerland which has its own official rules) is *always* written with "?"...
greets, imma
Ciao,
noto che negli indirizzi viene proposto Staatsstrasse, ma la strada statale a Salorno si chiama Via Nazionale, Nationalstrasse
Se posso vorrei dire anche la mia sull'ordine delle lingue, visto che ? stato deciso di impostarlo in base alla maggiore popolazione.
Non so se questo sia utile per chi magari guarda la cartina dell'Alto Adige.
Per farmene un'idea mi immagino di guardare una regione della Spagna, la Catalonia p.es. o altra zona, chess?, Valencia.
Ecco, se posso partire dal presupposto che l'ordine delle lingue ? sempre uguale, sapr? con certezza quale ? il nome spagnolo o catalano. Se invece venisse indicato in base ad un rilevamento etnico e l'ordine delle lingue non fosse sempre uguale? Come faccio poi a sapere quale ? il nome spagnolo?
Certo, in taluni casi si capisce comunque, ma la met? dei nomi pu? essere dubbia per uno straniero.
Trovate la mia ?berlegung fondata?
ciao
Tomas
p.s.
non mi ricordo pi? se dobbiamo scrivere Strasse o Stra?e ?
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Se posso vorrei dire anche la mia sull'ordine delle lingue, visto che ? stato deciso di impostarlo in base alla maggiore popolazione.
Non so se questo sia utile per chi magari guarda la cartina dell'Alto Adige.
Per farmene un'idea mi immagino di guardare una regione della Spagna, la Catalonia p.es. o altra zona, chess?, Valencia.
Ecco, se posso partire dal presupposto che l'ordine delle lingue ? sempre uguale, sapr? con certezza quale ? il nome spagnolo o catalano. Se invece venisse indicato in base ad un rilevamento etnico e l'ordine delle lingue non fosse sempre uguale? Come faccio poi a sapere quale ? il nome spagnolo?
Certo, in taluni casi si capisce comunque, ma la met? dei nomi pu? essere dubbia per uno straniero.
Trovate la mia ?berlegung fondata?
ciao
Tomas
p.s.
non mi ricordo pi? se dobbiamo scrivere Strasse o Stra?e ?
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Hi!
Finally, tomorrow the import of the house numbers will be done.
Here you can find the final information about the import.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/AltoAdige_-_S%C3%BCdtirol/OpenGisData_HouseNumber_Import2#IMPORT
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to-be-imported data in .osm format for the community to look over and spot
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I say this because I just took a very quick look at one of the
*_update.osm files and immediately found an issue with those
place-instead-of-street based addresses. :(
I think that any such issue has to be fixed _before_ we actually import
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Martin
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Hi!
Finally, tomorrow the import of the house numbers will be done.
Here you can find the final information about the import.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/AltoAdige_-_S%C3%BCdtirol/OpenGisData_HouseNumber_Import2#IMPORT
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Finally, tomorrow the import of the house numbers will be done.
Please postpone this a little bit! Instead you should first publish theto-be-imported data in .osm format for the community to look over and spot
eventual mistakes.
I say this because I just took a very quick look at one of the
*_update.osm files and immediately found an issue with those
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